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You can always talk about this: Burke's school superintendent and sheriff have differing accounts about whether an investigation was conducted into locker-room thefts and a hidden-camera video made by students at East Burke High.
Burleson says his office is still investigating any leads in the case to make sure the school system is fully investigating the matter. The school board has not watched the video as a group, says Chairman Ray Martinat. He says he believes at least one board member has watched the video.
talk to the sheriff. AT THE TIME he was interviewed he had not been informed- ask him now - yes he has. It was a matter of a 2 hours communication. paper ran their crap - before david got to sheriff. THINK PEOPLE! David was interviwed and said he has asked the sheriff to look into it - but they called the sheriff before dsavid could tell him there was a problem. Newless Herald screwed up the time line. just as the sheriff now.
Has anyone heard about the "huge" increase that Betty Terrell received for her "new position"? If not let me inform you...she got a whopping $20K more a year, which should bring her to about $100K a year. (Tim, Tracy, and especially, YOU ROB!) How do you explain trimming that fat at the Central Office? I guess all of the kissing up that Betty is doing is working now, especially since she's at "one of her conferences in Asheville" with a particular board member this week. Let's just hope she's back in town when R.S. becomes the new associate. It will be icing on the cake for her.
With the school year ending, it brings to our mind Child Nutrition bonuses again. Would someone please comment on how you feel about bonuses given to one select group of people? Doesn't everyone work hard in their jobs? It's bad enough that the cafeteria workers in the schools get a bonus, but why do the employees who work in purchasing and child nutrition at the Central Office get one also? A fairly significant one, I might add!!!!! At least the workers in the schools must meet a criteria to get their bonus, but all the employees at the Central Office have to do, is work in that department. And this has been going on for over 12 years. Does this seem fair to the rest of the employees of BCPS? Being a self supporting entity should not matter if you're a part of Burke County Schools. With that kind of money given out every year, I doubt lunch prices will ever increase. "Is anyone out there listening?"
What's the deal with the cry babies in the Maintenance Department? Wouldn't all of us like to have BCPS pay for our gas to go to and from work? Don't worry Mama Tracy and Daddy Tim will take care of you...
Just an FYI for all the readers here... a local church (Faith Community Church) in Valdese is doing a series called "What Would God Say To..." where they are talking about current people in the news nationally and locally. This coming weekend's message (6/22) is called "What Would God Say To The Burke County School Board" and all of the board members, as well as David Burleson, have been invited to attend. For more info, email the church at goanddo@embarqmail.com. The church meets at Heritage Middle School on Sundays @ 10:30 AM and needless to say this should be very interesting...
Here is another great sermon topic. "What would God say to pastors using the holiest of names (the creator of the vastness of the universe and of our very being who sent his gift of his son for our sins) to further a political agenda. Ray Martinat and other key players in this disgusting mess attend this church. Both sides of this claiming God is own their side is an abomination.
Saw this comment on the blog here and had to make sure everyone knows that there is NO political agenda involved here at Faith Community Church... this series is NOT about me or anyone else claiming to have the only access to God's voice concerning this situation or any that are being covered in this sermon series. When any of the people we are covering are mentioned, there are several topics that come to mind. The object of the series is to take the topics and go to the Bible and see what God has to say about it... I agree that no one should use God's name to further any agenda and I can assure you that is not the intention here. God has some things to say about all of the topics included in this situation, and it is our goal to encourage and edify all parties involved here - including the general public.
Sorry Pastor. I am not buying what you're selling. Very few visitors to this blog are on neutral ground. There are very passionate views on both sides. Although I commend you for using your real name...your visit here only implicates you. And you do happen to have many members on one side of the issue in your congregation. If your message is simply about healing a broken community....then I will stand corrected. If your message is about judging the serious (mainly political) issues on either side, then you should be ashamed of yourself.
I am not selling anything... the only agenda here is for healing and hope. I invite you to join us as well and see for yourself. I covet your prayers as I prepare this week.
Pastor, I must ask are you going to talk about the board as a whole or, name individuals and try to draw attention to them? I would be very careful as to how I conducted such a service as it may impact the community in a positive or negative way. You do not want to make enemy's in the community over such a topic.Yes, I believe in healing and praying for the board and all school system perrsonel and students.I caution you as an instrument of God to make sure this is a very ethical and non-invoking service.
The board may be made up of individuals, and they may have acted as individuals before, but they are a board, a group of people placed in leadership by the voting public... so I will address them as a board. Again I say, it is not my intention to single out a person, but to address the board and this has nothing to do with politics or a political agenda. I appreciate your counsel and agree that this has incredible potential. I believe that is why God has led for this to occur and it is my hope and prayer to be a vessel of honor for God's service - an instrument of healing and hope for this community. Again I ask for your prayers as FCC seeks to make a difference in this community and for the kingdom.
I wish you well, but believe also that bringing up the principal incident can cause a big uproar.Maybe, I will come see for myself before I judge to harshly.
I like to reserve Sunday morning for worship so I won't be able to make it. Most of the board, as I understand it attend their own churches, and I am sure seek his counsel. It's great that you alone seem to have been chosen to deliver a message from the almighty about our school board. It's amazing that you chose this method instead of quiet prayer or perhaps meeting with individual members to offer your kind support. I wish you well, but I am certain you are already further dividing what was once a wonderful community.
You didn't read my post closely enough. I believe Sunday Morning is about worshipping him....plain and simple. I don't think it's about me...you...or a school board. Making a time for worship into anything else can become self serving. We already have the word....Sunday is a time for worship.
To the bloggers addressing Pastor Norris: You seem to sound familiar, rather like the Pharisees of the Old Testament. Your blogs have a threatening undertone and you are, by yur own admission, sitting ready to pass judgement if YOU think the pastor does not handle the sermon correctly. I seem to remember Jesus, on many occasions, confronting specific people and situations and he was not always "politically correct". Who are you, bloggers, to judge what God is leading the pastor to do?
How can you accuse someone who says Sunday morning is for worship as threatening? As far as your comparison of Mark Norris to Jesus....you need to re-read the comment.The posts was making the point that maybe he should meet(confront) the board members. He should be praying for them. Once someone declares that God is on their side...the discussion ends. History tell us that God was on our side in support of slavery...all the way to our current war. The fact is...he is on everyones's side. Taking away time set aside for worshiping him to address a school board further divides. Worship means it is about him...not about us. How is this threatening to anyone. Let the Pastor take his message to the board....why not some other time instead of God's worship time? If it helps you to call a fellow Christian a Parisees ,then go ahead...it certainly adds to the debate...these men and women have their own Pastors. If he would like to add to their counsel, then do it.
It saddens me that a church, however well intentioned, is seeking to bring board members to a "healing" meeting.
All of the "God" and "Christian" talk on this bulletin board is upsetting to someone who supports the doctrine of the separation of Church and State. The school board should be secular. If you want the board to be influenced by God or Jesus, you need to start another private parochial school. Certainly we are all influenced by our personal beliefs - and yes, most of us in this part of the world are Christian. There are wonderful parochial schools throughout the US - unfortunately not so many in this neck of the woods. But there are some. And if you have a problem with NC curriculum or not allowing prayer in schools, send your child to one of those schools.
The first ammendment guarantees the freedom of religion from state control, and alternately it guarantees that the State cannot favor one religion. The United States is not a theocracy. Iran is. Iraq is/will be. Saudi Arabia is.
In my humble opinion, what the board needs is a mediation type or conflict resolution workshop or some kind of alternate dispute resolution workshop so that the parties can learn to work together. This board should have some mediated conversations without anyone invoking God or Jesus, and without all of the accompanying piety and self righteousness that invoking Christian principles often carries.
However, even the best trained mediator in the world will not make progress when minds are already closed. And at this point in the game, with all that has happened recently - it is probably too late for anyone to help this group.
Pray for the school board all you like, discuss them in Sunday School, discuss how God would deal with them (don't forget to look at the Old Testament God versus the New Testament God - you might come to different conclusions). But please don't seek to influence the school board through the power of your church (your invitation for them to join your class would do just that). That is well intentioned but wrong headed.
So, now you are immoral if you do not support David, but moral if you do?And if you support Wilkinson,and Armour you are moral but immoral if you support the other board members? What a bunch of Hypocrites you people are sick.I hope your minds find healing.I believe Vickie Dobson said it best when challenging the Kite Runner.Trust no board member or Administrator.Yes, David is not perfect and has as many faults as the ridiuculed board members.Buddy Armour is as big a hypocrite that has ever walked.You know what our whole county needs healing!
Now we dont know how someone is every minute of the day do we? Some of the most corrupt people are church leaders.It is sad but true.I will never say anyone is or is not a christian because I am not their judge.
here is the point. david has one wife, and no rumors of a bad marriage. he has decent kids. tracey lost her marriage, kids hate her, she is a public lair about changing map lines, she dresses like a piece of trash, and tim - what about his marriage? Do you get the point now?
We have had many rumors of affairs in this system.David sure spends a good amount of time behind closed doors with Rexanna Lowman.Is there fire behind this smoke?
Someone is really hung up on hypocricy. And you're right, Armour is a hypocrite. He goes to church, but he sins. Everyone on that board, in your house, and on this site sin. Paul said, "The very thing I hate - that is what I do."
Our Catholic friends say there are sins of ommission and sins of commission. So no one is really innocent. Not all board members hide behind their church and then use their churchiness to condemn books or people. Not all board members abuse their position.
Using the Pharisaic comparison is appropriate here. They are the lawyers, the ones who are suppose to keep the law before and above all others. But they don't do it. They are too caught up in their own self-worth to serve their God by serving others.
So, it's OK to be a hypocrite. Hypocrites have something to work toward. Pharisees "have already received their reward."
I would like the School Board meetings held at a place that is relatively equal to drive to from all schools. The building where they are held now is too small and stuffy. The sound quality is awful, especially when people mumble or do not speak clearly into the mikes. School groups or other presentations that are done are at the front on the same level as those seated, which makes it visually hard. And, directors or others of school presentations often block the view because they are standing in front of the groups. Thank you.
Can the school board members start posting their school board-related travel to conferences and meetings to an online calendar prior to attending? I am referring to meetings that are outside the normal Monday night scheduled board meetings.
Name of meeting Time and date Transportation mode to and from
If the June 17, 6:49 PM, posting is true about a few select classified employees - those in Child Nutrition, Purchasing, the cafeteria, and others at the Central Office - receiving bonuses when others are not, then the right thing for the Board to do would be either to give all the other classified people (1) the same bonus as they've received (BEFORE JULY 1), or (2) compensate in another way with the same amount.
To ALL Board Members or Mr Brackett, would you please verify or dismiss the truth behind whether some employees were given bonuses and others were not - AND THE REASONING on both sides of the equation???????
As a lifetime resident of Burke county and father of 4 children in the public school system, I do have my opinions of how the school board is conducting business and how it is a divisive issue. But, let me be the first to say, as a member of Faith Community Church, that Mark Norris struggled with posting the sermon topic on this site. As a congregation, we urged him to do so. The series he is conducting is very informative and spiritual without being judgemental of the individuals involved. This is the fourth topic in this series in which he has addressed what God would say to.... which also addressed the 2008 American Idol winner and runner up, the roll of fathers and Mark Norris himself. In which, he challenged himself to be the person God wants us all to be. If you look at the title itself, it could be misleading. Mark does not claim to know what God would say to each individual, but uses scripture to challenge each subject to soul search and be led by Gods word. For those of you that are judging Mark Norris, we (FCC) will keep you in our prayers. Because, if you knew him, you would know that he is the second (only to my dad) finest man I have ever had the pleasure to be associated with and is a compassionate person not only to his congregation and family but to his community. For those of you who do not believe that he can conduct a neutral, constructive and healing service please come and visit us on Sunday and see for yourself, I think you will be pleasantly surprised. We at FCC, along with Mark, are trying to make a difference in the community and are trying to live up to our slogan as a go and do church. I am not going to hide behind an anonymous name simply because I feel that the things that Mark and FCC are trying to do in this community are innovative and admirable and I for one am not ashamed to put my personal stamp on my statements. I think we should come together as a community and begin the healing instead of bashing anonymously on this blog. I believe that this service may be the first step in that process. Just for reference, I don't agree with a lot of the decisions made by the school board but they were elected by the community and we must eliminate the constant bickering in order to begin the healing. What would God say to me.... We need to all live our lives by constantly asking that question of ourselves. And to Mark Norris.....PREACH ON BROTHER, Let's do life with the entire county. Keith Stamey - Hildebran, NC
My suggestion to the school board members and to Burleson who are going to attend FCC this Sunday, you best make changes and go to the church that Joel Hastings attends and support his family and church this Sunday. You have to make your own dicision. Which is of the most important. Joels family or the FCC views on the school board. Make your choice and just remember people talk and we will know how you feel about your employees.
Thats an AMEN Keith. Mark, Please don't let the world get in your way. YOU preach what ever GOD gives you. If what you preach is from God's word (Holy Bible, know one should be against you. And I don't even know you.
To 6/20 2:27 Another blogger with a threatening tone. Who are you to say how people should support each other. It seems, in your opinion, the only way to support Joel's family is to go to his church and no where else on Sunday. I was taught to believe that God can hear prayers from anywhere. Are you going to place a sign-in sheet at the back of the church for Mr. Burleson and board members to sign? "you best make changes" "Make your choice and just remember people talk and we will know how you feel about your employees". My response to you would be, what are you going to do if they don't. Did God speak to you and say these people had to go to Joel's church or are you just trying to run God's business. I would venture a guess that Mr. Burleson will be at the hospital tonight, and that he is in constant contact with the family. Is that enough support?
I'm afraid Keith is proving my point. Worship time is not about us. It's not about what God might say to any of us...it's about us worshipping him. A more appropriate approach would be during Sunday School...or a personal visit from the pastor to the parties involved.
To the blogger that brought the issue of Joel Hastings and which church to attend....HOW DARE YOU!!!! At a time when this family and friends are in stock and grief stricken you make such a statement...as a school employee and a colleage of Joel Hastings you have NO RIGHT to bring those statements to this blog....I will pray for you.
You think board members have not been in touch with the Superintendent today - who BTW IS at the hospital this evening. News is the pressure from the bruising has subsided some. However, he remains in a medically-induced coma. Joel is still critical.
This is good news, and that means that my prayers and everyone's prayers are working. Joel's family knows we are all in communication with our Maker at all times and from all places.
The more people who go to their own church or visit another church - including FCC - will only reach others who will want to lift THEIR petitions as well.
God isn't so limited, Joel's family isn't so sensitive, and the BCPS employees aren't so shallow as to believe all board members and Mr. Burleson must converge on one set of coordinates in order to assure those employees they are concerned.
I think you, Mr. or Ms. 2:27, are reaching for that go-devil so you can drive a wedge between some board meembers, the superintendent, and BCPS employees at the expense of Joel Hastings and his family.
So, the FCC is going to "pray for" those of us who disagree with the way their Pastor is handling the controversy? What makes you so holy that you feel I need your prayers? That kind of self-righteousness and piety are really too much - and too common on this board.
Your faith may be different than mine, but it is not superior. I don't need your prayers to help me see things your way. Now, if you want to pray for us all (including yourself) for illumination - have at it.
Again, pray for whomever you like - the school board, the superintendant and the teachers - but do not seek to influence them through your church. The only problem I have personally with your church's agenda is that the school board members were invited to participate. As skilled as your Pastor may be, there is a fine line between "healing" and influencing decisions. Further, few of the board members appear to have any self control and their participation in such a colloquy would be a fiasco. Maybe your Pastor can pull it off, but again, you are violating the freedom from the government from being influenced by a religion -
Please also remember churches are not supposed to be political if they want to keep their 501(c)(3) status.
I am not denigrating your Pastor. Any peacemaker deserves the utmost respect. I am sure you have a wonderful church. Please just tone down the piety, self righteousness and "holier than thou" attitude towards people who disagree with you. It does not further your cause.
to the last blogger. I am not a member of FCC, however, you need to mind your our matters. shut your mouth and worr about your own church. you are making your self look more and more like a pompas self rightous ass.
I apologize for my rant regarding the FCC offering to pray for me and realize that I let my sensitivity about being "prayed for" get the better of me. It just seems the only time someone offers to pray for me is because we disagree - (i.e. "I'll pray for you to see the light like I do.") Only one blogger made that remark, and that is the person to whom I should have addressed my rant.
To be clear: Geezlouise is a Christian(albeit not the fundmentalist or Baptist kind), does not drink alcohol, does not judge those who do drink alcohol and does not consider those who do drink alcohol as going against Biblical teaching. So a beer in one hand and a Bible in the other isn't a terrible contradiction or exercise in hypocrisy - unless maybe the person is drunk. Geezlouise does not understand 8:34's post, although Geezlouise recognizes and agrees that she (Geezlouise)can be a self-righteous pompous ass along with the best of them. Geezlouise has gotten her panties in a wad on many occasions and would challenge anyone who says they haven't to be honest with themselves. That Geezlouise is alive at all is a testament to God's Grace, so she doesn't judge whether someone does or doesn't live a Christian lifestyle. Geezlouise definitely does not think one should be judged by the behavior of one's children, and thinks criticism of the vice chair for the actions of her son are unfair and unreasonably hurtful. Geezlouise has a tendency to think that people who cheat on their spouses are fair game for public scorn (Geezlouise needs to pray on that one because she should not be judging others -but she is human and is working on that.)
Geezlouise also has studied Constitutional law in depth and knows that there should be a separation between Church and State, and gets mighty nervous when the line between the two is blurred.
As for my commentary before, it was directed toward the 8:34 post. As I said, maybe not too clearly, geezlouise (and everyone else for that matter) is allowed to have her opinion, whether you or I like it or not, even you 8:34 (10:50).
Geez! Louise, I don't believe the folks at FCC are trying to influence or manipulate the State by inviting board members to their service.
If anything, I think they want the board members to understand that their community is genuinely concerned about the hostility that exists on Parker Road every other Monday night. I think the FCC folks do not want their children neglected or caught in the cross-fire while some board members jockey for power and position. And I am certain that they understand that while loving your enemies is preferable to punching them out, love isn't always warm and fuzzy. When Christ scattered the money changers and then called the temple masters a brood of vipers, He did it out of love. I often wonder if Christ asked Himself repeatedly, "Why am I going to the cross for THEM?" But being the obedient child, He did go. I wouldn't have.
Louise, I don't want you to believe as I do nor behave as I do. If I were a board member, i would tell my preacher I was invited to worship at another church this Sunday because that church intends to lift up my service or maybe my disservice to kids. Whatever God might say through Mark Norris would only make me better aware of my responsibility to 14,000 kids, 1,100 teachers and administrators, and 1,400 support people. I would ask my minister to pray for me as I know others do. And I would go.
As you can see, I'm not a fundamentalist either - although I believe the fundamentals are important to my growth. We all judge others knowing full well that that same judgement awaits us. I have to live with that fact daily, and like you, I'm working on my faith as it is a constant WIP.
The behavior of this school board infuriates me much like the false piety exhibited by some board members infuriates you. After watching the tube, listening to the audio tapes, and attending more than a couple of meetings, I am convinced there will never be a workable peace. The division is just too great. Unfortunately, the potential fall-out will hurt our schools and our community for a long time to come unless there is intervention from someplace - be it Raleigh, the courts, or the pulpit.
Sorry, I'm not going along with your boycott. In fact, I have a question. Why would Buff stand up and speak about Joel at the Patton gathering. He and his mistress Tracy both called Adam Hastings a liar and tried to ruin his reputation and then Buff has the nerve to stand up and speak about Joel. Common sense would should tell Buff that Joel despised him and I would think the family would not want the Buffoons anywhere around.
WE should be removing this board. Tracy posted the boycott. Why would a Buffoon hater boycott a web site hating on the Buffons who trash talked hastings? this web site has nothing to do with hastings and everything to do with removing the current board.
an I.T. huh ? not really necessary. no big deal to find out where these anonymous blogs come from. Sure, any piece of software *was* written by someone (or was created by a program that was written by someone), but when you get it it's either on a disk or on a chip or just floating through the Net and your computer "modulates" digital signals from the computer into analog sound waves for the telephone, and it demodulates the telephone's sounds into digital information again. By the way, ISIS was originally two computers working together and sometimes refer almost interchangeably to "ISIS" or "the email server" or of the operating system of a computer is "in ROM" to tell the CPU how to get the rest of the operating system. Bottom line is, we know who you are.
I am distressed to see that some schools in our system lowered flags to half staff in honor of Mr. Hastings. He did not serve in the military and there are rules to govern when the flag is lowered.
The flag of the United States may only properly be flown at half-staff pursuant to a provision of federal law, a presidential proclamation, or a gubernatorial proclamation in the state concerned. Under any other circumstance, the flag of the United States is supposed to be flown at full-staff. Some state governors have allowed flags to be flown at half staff following the death of a family member who serves in the armed forces. This applies only to flags flown on individual property. In Virginia, the entire neighborhood is allowed to fly their flag at half staff following the death of a soldier.
I am "distressed" that you want to limit our free speech. You are correct about the flag code. But that law has no punishment and is not enforced. Mainly because it is seen as a violation of the first amendment.
There are so many more things to be distressed about in our schools/county/state/country/world.
OK, my cat died, let's lower the flags. Let's also make a list of all laws not enforced so we can break them without worrying about punishment. I am all for free speech and I would suggest now that a precedent has been set, the schools can lower the flag for all requests from citizens that have lost loved ones. I beleive free speech applies to EVERYONE. Unless you have been appointed as the official "distressed police", I will choose what I am distressed about.
I don't think you get your own point. You are correct about lowering the flag at my house being my right to free speech. However, these flags were lowered at facilities funded by state and federal funds. Also, who makes the decision? Is it for administrators of 18 years or more. What about teachers, principals, maintenence workers, custodians, cafeteria workers, teacher assistants, office personnel, bus drivers, etc. Please enlighten us as to the criteria for the flag lowering list at state and federal institutions so we will all know who can be covered by free speech.
There is a school board meeting at 11:30 on tomorrow. Let's talk about things like....Why is it at 11:30, when most of the public is working? Is it a personnel meeting? Looks like it from the "tentative agenda" posted on th BCPS website. When are they talking about the "map"? When are they talking about THE BOOK banning? Are they talking about the personnel director position? Are they addressing the 7 official resignations from the Tech department? Why are so many leaving? My understanding is that the tech department is a vital part of the system and that it was a dedicated group working hard to serve BCPS. The "tentative agenda" shows "none" for most of the standard agenda items until you get to "closed" personnel session. I get it....personnel issues should be behind closed doors but...but I really don't trust the integrity, honestly or intentions of these people...I've tried, I've listened, I've been patient. I just can't ignore the small voice in my head that says "be careful, something is wrong here, don't trust what they tell you". I wanted our board to provide leadership and vision for our schools. I only see and experience chaos, lies, rumors and vindictiveness. Explain to me why I should trust them? Explain to me what they see for the future of our schools, other than "I get what I want because I am in power" and "you will regret disagreeing with me because I WAS ELECTED". My hope is that eleceted officials see the incredible responsibility these positions invoke and not the vast priviledge some would assume.
I'll tell you why all of the Technology folks in that department are leaving as I spoke to a few of them. They are leaving because they are under paid (other counties pay lots more and where big fish don't hide their salary like he does), they are not appreciated nor promoted fairly, and they know that their boss Dr S is REALLY a power tripping, 2-faced, predjudice, lying, sneaky person that plays ball by the famous "buddy system". Just look at those that left his department and look at who he is replacing them with. He has lost years of irreplaceable experience and wants gullible puppets to replace the lost talent. Looks like the smart ones have figured it out and made good moves. I feel sorry for those left under the leadership of Dr S. as they should be embarassed. I just wish those who are leaving would voice their thoughts. Please speak your mind.
OK, I'll voice my thoughts. I left the Tech department and I can tell you that Dr Smith is an outstanding leader and the best boss I ever had. You have made it clear that you have no idea what you are talking about. I left because with this BOE, I have no idea if I will have a job next week or not and that the board is out to get Dr Smith.
Ref: "SOUNDS JUST LIKE THE PREVIOUS BOARD TO ME" I really don't care about the previous board. This is now. The school system is in trouble now. Where is the thoughtful, intelligent leadership we need now?
How much money is Burke County Public Schools paying PER MONTH for employees and staff to have free dial-up internet access if they choose? Do any other school systems in NC do this?
The free dial-up connection service was started to provide internet for employees "back then" when many had no connection and few other options were out there. It was a great recruiting tool and also allowed employees to work and stay connected at home. It served its purpose. It still works for people that just need to check email at home but with broadband connections and the need for faster and more robust connections to access current applications on the net it isn't so wonderful. Dr. Smith has recommended (more than once) dropping the service as a money saving move but has been directed to keep it. I'm sure he would prefer to get rid of it.
I think there should be a discussion about best practices in education as it relates to how students learn and who should make decisions on what goes on in the classroom.
If you do not have a teaching degree, you have not had the many classes and fieldwork experiences which prepare you for teaching.
How can anyone who does not have a teaching degree, or even a college degree (Norman & Hairfield), make a LEARNED and CRITICAL evaluation of any kind of educational theory, practice, or program.
Foe instance, the love for inquiry based science. Well... we already do that! Does the bored understand or even know what goes on in the classroom?
I remember seeing each and every bored member in the schools and popping their heads into during the election, but now those very same people haven't even passed through the school doors.
BCPS Bored: Leave the classroom teachers alone, worry about the big issues, stop doing ignorant things like increasing class sizes, stop ejecting teaching positions and then padding the bored budget and adding useless line items. Please look at the budget found here: http://www.burke.k12.nc.us/Superintendent/boe/ExpenseReport/Current_Expense_08-09_3d_Draft_Approved_5-13-08.pdf
Lets look at the school bored budget:
They slash $1,020,507 from salaries and benefits, but look what they added...
Items 104 and 105: $18,000 increase in bored travel and membership fees/dues
Item 144: $19,167 for Public Relations - Miscellaneous (Banquets, Celebrations, Awards Ceremonies, etc.).
$ 37,000 increase...that's one teacher assistant position with benefits...
There are many other items that were increased that are not instruction based, and many items that were cut that ARE instructional based.
Enough of my rant: back to answering the original question...lets discuss bored meddling in the classroom, bored meddling with the budget, bored meddling of instruction when they have no education degree or background (except for Mr. W.), and finally - why doesn't the bored members visit, stay, and maybe spend time in the classrooms?
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You can always talk about this:
Burke's school superintendent and sheriff have differing accounts about whether an investigation was conducted into locker-room thefts and a hidden-camera video made by students at East Burke High.
Burleson says his office is still investigating any leads in the case to make sure the school system is fully investigating the matter. The school board has not watched the video as a group, says Chairman Ray Martinat. He says he believes at least one board member has watched the video.
YEAH, OR YOU COULD TALK ABOUT BUDDY ARMOUR BEING "FORCED TO WRITE" HIS RESIGNATION LETTER "AGAINST HIS WILL"...
NOW THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING....
talk to the sheriff. AT THE TIME he was interviewed he had not been informed- ask him now - yes he has. It was a matter of a 2 hours communication. paper ran their crap - before david got to sheriff. THINK PEOPLE! David was interviwed and said he has asked the sheriff to look into it - but they called the sheriff before dsavid could tell him there was a problem. Newless Herald screwed up the time line. just as the sheriff now.
The last blogger is correct. I called to verify. I stand corrected.
The last two bloggers are incorrect. Seriously.
the last blogger is seriously incorect.
blog THIS !
Has anyone heard about the "huge" increase that Betty Terrell received for her "new position"? If not let me inform you...she got a whopping $20K more a year, which should bring her to about $100K a year. (Tim, Tracy, and especially, YOU ROB!) How do you explain trimming that fat at the Central Office? I guess all of the kissing up that Betty is doing is working now, especially since she's at "one of her conferences in Asheville" with a particular board member this week. Let's just hope she's back in town when R.S. becomes the new associate. It will be icing on the cake for her.
With the school year ending, it brings to our mind Child Nutrition bonuses again. Would someone please comment on how you feel about bonuses given to one select group of people? Doesn't everyone work hard in their jobs? It's bad enough that the cafeteria workers in the schools get a bonus, but why do the employees who work in purchasing and child nutrition at the Central Office get one also? A fairly significant one, I might add!!!!! At least the workers in the schools must meet a criteria to get their bonus, but all the employees at the Central Office have to do, is work in that department. And this has been going on for over 12 years. Does this seem fair to the rest of the employees of BCPS? Being a self supporting entity should not matter if you're a part of Burke County Schools. With that kind of money given out every year, I doubt lunch prices will ever increase. "Is anyone out there listening?"
What's the deal with the cry babies in the Maintenance Department? Wouldn't all of us like to have BCPS pay for our gas to go to and from work? Don't worry Mama Tracy and Daddy Tim will take care of you...
Just an FYI for all the readers here... a local church (Faith Community Church) in Valdese is doing a series called "What Would God Say To..." where they are talking about current people in the news nationally and locally. This coming weekend's message (6/22) is called "What Would God Say To The Burke County School Board" and all of the board members, as well as David Burleson, have been invited to attend. For more info, email the church at goanddo@embarqmail.com. The church meets at Heritage Middle School on Sundays @ 10:30 AM and needless to say this should be very interesting...
Here is another great sermon topic. "What would God say to pastors using the holiest of names (the creator of the vastness of the universe and of our very being who sent his gift of his son for our sins) to further a political agenda. Ray Martinat and other key players in this disgusting mess attend this church. Both sides of this claiming God is own their side is an abomination.
Saw this comment on the blog here and had to make sure everyone knows that there is NO political agenda involved here at Faith Community Church... this series is NOT about me or anyone else claiming to have the only access to God's voice concerning this situation or any that are being covered in this sermon series. When any of the people we are covering are mentioned, there are several topics that come to mind. The object of the series is to take the topics and go to the Bible and see what God has to say about it... I agree that no one should use God's name to further any agenda and I can assure you that is not the intention here. God has some things to say about all of the topics included in this situation, and it is our goal to encourage and edify all parties involved here - including the general public.
Sorry Pastor. I am not buying what you're selling. Very few visitors to this blog are on neutral ground. There are very passionate views on both sides. Although I commend you for using your real name...your visit here only implicates you. And you do happen to have many members on one side of the issue in your congregation. If your message is simply about healing a broken community....then I will stand corrected. If your message is about judging the serious (mainly political) issues on either side, then you should be ashamed of yourself.
I am not selling anything... the only agenda here is for healing and hope. I invite you to join us as well and see for yourself. I covet your prayers as I prepare this week.
Blessings and love!
Pastor, I must ask are you going to talk about the board as a whole or, name individuals and try to draw attention to them? I would be very careful as to how I conducted such a service as it may impact the community in a positive or negative way. You do not want to make enemy's in the community over such a topic.Yes, I believe in healing and praying for the board and all school system perrsonel and students.I caution you as an instrument of God to make sure this is a very ethical and non-invoking service.
The board may be made up of individuals, and they may have acted as individuals before, but they are a board, a group of people placed in leadership by the voting public... so I will address them as a board. Again I say, it is not my intention to single out a person, but to address the board and this has nothing to do with politics or a political agenda. I appreciate your counsel and agree that this has incredible potential. I believe that is why God has led for this to occur and it is my hope and prayer to be a vessel of honor for God's service - an instrument of healing and hope for this community. Again I ask for your prayers as FCC seeks to make a difference in this community and for the kingdom.
I wish you well, but believe also that bringing up the principal incident can cause a big uproar.Maybe, I will come see for myself before I judge to harshly.
I like to reserve Sunday morning for worship so I won't be able to make it. Most of the board, as I understand it attend their own churches, and I am sure seek his counsel. It's great that you alone seem to have been chosen to deliver a message from the almighty about our school board. It's amazing that you chose this method instead of quiet prayer or perhaps meeting with individual members to offer your kind support. I wish you well, but I am certain you are already further dividing what was once a wonderful community.
Sounds like some people don't want to here Gods word. Pastor you preach what God lays on your heart.
You didn't read my post closely enough. I believe Sunday Morning is about worshipping him....plain and simple. I don't think it's about me...you...or a school board. Making a time for worship into anything else can become self serving. We already have the word....Sunday is a time for worship.
To the bloggers addressing Pastor Norris:
You seem to sound familiar, rather like the Pharisees of the Old Testament. Your blogs have a threatening undertone and you are, by yur own admission, sitting ready to pass judgement if YOU think the pastor does not handle the sermon correctly. I seem to remember Jesus, on many occasions, confronting specific people and situations and he was not always "politically correct". Who are you, bloggers, to judge what God is leading the pastor to do?
How can you accuse someone who says Sunday morning is for worship as threatening? As far as your comparison of Mark Norris to Jesus....you need to re-read the comment.The posts was making the point that maybe he should meet(confront) the board members. He should be praying for them. Once someone declares that God is on their side...the discussion ends. History tell us that God was on our side in support of slavery...all the way to our current war. The fact is...he is on everyones's side. Taking away time set aside for worshiping him to address a school board further divides. Worship means it is about him...not about us. How is this threatening to anyone. Let the Pastor take his message to the board....why not some other time instead of God's worship time? If it helps you to call a fellow Christian a Parisees ,then go ahead...it certainly adds to the debate...these men and women have their own Pastors. If he would like to add to their counsel, then do it.
It saddens me that a church, however well intentioned, is seeking to bring board members to a "healing" meeting.
All of the "God" and "Christian" talk on this bulletin board is upsetting to someone who supports the doctrine of the separation of Church and State. The school board should be secular. If you want the board to be influenced by God or Jesus, you need to start another private parochial school. Certainly we are all influenced by our personal beliefs - and yes, most of us in this part of the world are Christian. There are wonderful parochial schools throughout the US - unfortunately not so many in this neck of the woods. But there are some. And if you have a problem with NC curriculum or not allowing prayer in schools, send your child to one of those schools.
The first ammendment guarantees the freedom of religion from state control, and alternately it guarantees that the State cannot favor one religion. The United States is not a theocracy. Iran is. Iraq is/will be. Saudi Arabia is.
In my humble opinion, what the board needs is a mediation type or conflict resolution workshop or some kind of alternate dispute resolution workshop so that the parties can learn to work together. This board should have some mediated conversations without anyone invoking God or Jesus, and without all of the accompanying piety and self righteousness that invoking Christian principles often carries.
However, even the best trained mediator in the world will not make progress when minds are already closed. And at this point in the game, with all that has happened recently - it is probably too late for anyone to help this group.
Pray for the school board all you like, discuss them in Sunday School, discuss how God would deal with them (don't forget to look at the Old Testament God versus the New Testament God - you might come to different conclusions). But please don't seek to influence the school board through the power of your church (your invitation for them to join your class would do just that). That is well intentioned but wrong headed.
Maybe a Pastor in the community thinks David Burleson should be the focus of sermon and not for the good.
WHO? I cant think of one- Call them by name! Our Moral pastors support David.
So, now you are immoral if you do not support David, but moral if you do?And if you support Wilkinson,and Armour you are moral but immoral if you support the other board members? What a bunch of Hypocrites you people are sick.I hope your minds find healing.I believe Vickie Dobson said it best when challenging the Kite Runner.Trust no board member or Administrator.Yes, David is not perfect and has as many faults as the ridiuculed board members.Buddy Armour is as big a hypocrite that has ever walked.You know what our whole county needs healing!
I am just saying David lives a Christian lifestyle. Tracy and tim DO NOT
Now we dont know how someone is every minute of the day do we? Some of the most corrupt people are church leaders.It is sad but true.I will never say anyone is or is not a christian because I am not their judge.
here is the point. david has one wife, and no rumors of a bad marriage. he has decent kids. tracey lost her marriage, kids hate her, she is a public lair about changing map lines, she dresses like a piece of trash, and tim - what about his marriage? Do you get the point now?
David is a liar.Can you prove otherwise?
We have had many rumors of affairs in this system.David sure spends a good amount of time behind closed doors with Rexanna Lowman.Is there fire behind this smoke?
Speaking of affair rumors, anyone else confirm Betty Terrell got a $20,000 raise? I saw it posted here and heard the rumor somewhere else.
REF: 'David is a liar.Can you prove otherwise?"
DON'T HAVE TO.
CAN YOU PROVE HE IS ???
It's just Tim or Tracey wanted to be a smart A.
Someone is really hung up on hypocricy. And you're right, Armour is a hypocrite. He goes to church, but he sins. Everyone on that board, in your house, and on this site sin. Paul said, "The very thing I hate - that is what I do."
Our Catholic friends say there are sins of ommission and sins of commission. So no one is really innocent. Not all board members hide behind their church and then use their churchiness to condemn books or people. Not all board members abuse their position.
Using the Pharisaic comparison is appropriate here. They are the lawyers, the ones who are suppose to keep the law before and above all others. But they don't do it. They are too caught up in their own self-worth to serve their God by serving others.
So, it's OK to be a hypocrite. Hypocrites have something to work toward. Pharisees "have already received their reward."
I would like the School Board meetings held at a place that is relatively equal to drive to from all schools. The building where they are held now is too small and stuffy. The sound quality is awful, especially when people mumble or do not speak clearly into the mikes. School groups or other presentations that are done are at the front on the same level as those seated, which makes it visually hard. And, directors or others of school presentations often block the view because they are standing in front of the groups. Thank you.
What are 3 areas where money is being wasted within the school system? Your opinions do not have to be in any particular order.
Why is the time these postings are posted incorrect?
Can the school board members start posting their school board-related travel to conferences and meetings to an online calendar prior to attending? I am referring to meetings that are outside the normal Monday night scheduled board meetings.
Name of meeting
Time and date
Transportation mode to and from
If the June 17, 6:49 PM, posting is true about a few select classified employees - those in Child Nutrition, Purchasing, the cafeteria, and others at the Central Office - receiving bonuses when others are not, then the right thing for the Board to do would be either to give all the other classified people (1) the same bonus as they've received (BEFORE JULY 1), or (2) compensate in another way with the same amount.
To ALL Board Members or Mr Brackett, would you please verify or dismiss the truth behind whether some employees were given bonuses and others were not - AND THE REASONING on both sides of the equation???????
As a lifetime resident of Burke county and father of 4 children in the public school system, I do have my opinions of how the school board is conducting business and how it is a divisive issue. But, let me be the first to say, as a member of Faith Community Church, that Mark Norris struggled with posting the sermon topic on this site. As a congregation, we urged him to do so. The series he is conducting is very informative and spiritual without being judgemental of the individuals involved. This is the fourth topic in this series in which he has addressed what God would say to.... which also addressed the 2008 American Idol winner and runner up, the roll of fathers and Mark Norris himself. In which, he challenged himself to be the person God wants us all to be. If you look at the title itself, it could be misleading. Mark does not claim to know what God would say to each individual, but uses scripture to challenge each subject to soul search and be led by Gods word. For those of you that are judging Mark Norris, we (FCC) will keep you in our prayers. Because, if you knew him, you would know that he is the second (only to my dad) finest man I have ever had the pleasure to be associated with and is a compassionate person not only to his congregation and family but to his community. For those of you who do not believe that he can conduct a neutral, constructive and healing service please come and visit us on Sunday and see for yourself, I think you will be pleasantly surprised. We at FCC, along with Mark, are trying to make a difference in the community and are trying to live up to our slogan as a go and do church. I am not going to hide behind an anonymous name simply because I feel that the things that Mark and FCC are trying to do in this community are innovative and admirable and I for one am not ashamed to put my personal stamp on my statements. I think we should come together as a community and begin the healing instead of bashing anonymously on this blog. I believe that this service may be the first step in that process. Just for reference, I don't agree with a lot of the decisions made by the school board but they were elected by the community and we must eliminate the constant bickering in order to begin the healing. What would God say to me.... We need to all live our lives by constantly asking that question of ourselves. And to Mark Norris.....PREACH ON BROTHER, Let's do life with the entire county. Keith Stamey - Hildebran, NC
My suggestion to the school board members and to Burleson who are going to attend FCC this Sunday, you best make changes and go to the church that Joel Hastings attends and support his family and church this Sunday. You have to make your own dicision. Which is of the most important. Joels family or the FCC views on the school board. Make your choice and just remember people talk and we will know how you feel about your employees.
Thats an AMEN Keith. Mark, Please don't let the world get in your way. YOU preach what ever GOD gives you. If what you preach is from God's word (Holy Bible, know one should be against you. And I don't even know you.
Preach about Burleson's shortcomings.
To 6/20 2:27
Another blogger with a threatening tone. Who are you to say how people should support each other. It seems, in your opinion, the only way to support Joel's family is to go to his church and no where else on Sunday. I was taught to believe that God can hear prayers from anywhere. Are you going to place a sign-in sheet at the back of the church for Mr. Burleson and board members to sign? "you best make changes" "Make your choice and just remember people talk and we will know how you feel about your employees". My response to you would be, what are you going to do if they don't. Did God speak to you and say these people had to go to Joel's church or are you just trying to run God's business. I would venture a guess that Mr. Burleson will be at the hospital tonight, and that he is in constant contact with the family. Is that enough support?
Give em hell preacher!
I'm afraid Keith is proving my point. Worship time is not about us. It's not about what God might say to any of us...it's about us worshipping him. A more appropriate approach would be during Sunday School...or a personal visit from the pastor to the parties involved.
To the blogger that brought the issue of Joel Hastings and which church to attend....HOW DARE YOU!!!! At a time when this family and friends are in stock and grief stricken you make such a statement...as a school employee and a colleage of Joel Hastings you have NO RIGHT to bring those statements to this blog....I will pray for you.
You think board members have not been in touch with the Superintendent today - who BTW IS at the hospital this evening. News is the pressure from the bruising has subsided some. However, he remains in a medically-induced coma. Joel is still critical.
This is good news, and that means that my prayers and everyone's prayers are working. Joel's family knows we are all in communication with our Maker at all times and from all places.
The more people who go to their own church or visit another church - including FCC - will only reach others who will want to lift THEIR petitions as well.
God isn't so limited, Joel's family isn't so sensitive, and the BCPS employees aren't so shallow as to believe all board members and Mr. Burleson must converge on one set of coordinates in order to assure those employees they are concerned.
I think you, Mr. or Ms. 2:27, are reaching for that go-devil so you can drive a wedge between some board meembers, the superintendent, and BCPS employees at the expense of Joel Hastings and his family.
So, the FCC is going to "pray for" those of us who disagree with the way their Pastor is handling the controversy? What makes you so holy that you feel I need your prayers? That kind of self-righteousness and piety are really too much - and too common on this board.
Your faith may be different than mine, but it is not superior. I don't need your prayers to help me see things your way. Now, if you want to pray for us all (including yourself) for illumination - have at it.
Again, pray for whomever you like - the school board, the superintendant and the teachers - but do not seek to influence them through your church. The only problem I have personally with your church's agenda is that the school board members were invited to participate. As skilled as your Pastor may be, there is a fine line between "healing" and influencing decisions. Further, few of the board members appear to have any self control and their participation in such a colloquy would be a fiasco. Maybe your Pastor can pull it off, but again, you are violating the freedom from the government from being influenced by a religion -
Please also remember churches are not supposed to be political if they want to keep their 501(c)(3) status.
I am not denigrating your Pastor. Any peacemaker deserves the utmost respect. I am sure you have a wonderful church. Please just tone down the piety, self righteousness and "holier than thou" attitude towards people who disagree with you. It does not further your cause.
to the last blogger. I am not a member of FCC, however, you need to mind your our matters. shut your mouth and worr about your own church. you are making your self look more and more like a pompas self rightous ass.
Sheesh...don't get your panties in a wad!!! Sounds like another so-called christian (beer in one hand...bible in the other) rant.
Everybody is entitled to their opinion. If you can't handle it, go somewhere else.
and what are you ... someone that will be burning in hell?
I apologize for my rant regarding the FCC offering to pray for me and realize that I let my sensitivity about being "prayed for" get the better of me. It just seems the only time someone offers to pray for me is because we disagree - (i.e. "I'll pray for you to see the light like I do.") Only one blogger made that remark, and that is the person to whom I should have addressed my rant.
To be clear:
Geezlouise is a Christian(albeit not the fundmentalist or Baptist kind), does not drink alcohol, does not judge those who do drink alcohol and does not consider those who do drink alcohol as going against Biblical teaching. So a beer in one hand and a Bible in the other isn't a terrible contradiction or exercise in hypocrisy - unless maybe the person is drunk. Geezlouise does not understand 8:34's post, although Geezlouise recognizes and agrees that she (Geezlouise)can be a self-righteous pompous ass along with the best of them. Geezlouise has gotten her panties in a wad on many occasions and would challenge anyone who says they haven't to be honest with themselves. That Geezlouise is alive at all is a testament to God's Grace, so she doesn't judge whether someone does or doesn't live a Christian lifestyle. Geezlouise definitely does not think one should be judged by the behavior of one's children, and thinks criticism of the vice chair for the actions of her son are unfair and unreasonably hurtful. Geezlouise has a tendency to think that people who cheat on their spouses are fair game for public scorn (Geezlouise needs to pray on that one because she should not be judging others -but she is human and is working on that.)
Geezlouise also has studied Constitutional law in depth and knows that there should be a separation between Church and State, and gets mighty nervous when the line between the two is blurred.
Louise
idiots.......
I appreciate Geezelouise's honesty and her firm stand on our US Constitution. I am also mature enough to accept her post without namecalling.
So 10:50,
Where I end up isn't up to you, thank God.
As for my commentary before, it was directed toward the 8:34 post. As I said, maybe not too clearly, geezlouise (and everyone else for that matter) is allowed to have her opinion, whether you or I like it or not, even you 8:34 (10:50).
Have a nice day.
idiots.......
Geez! Louise,
I don't believe the folks at FCC are trying to influence or manipulate the State by inviting board members to their service.
If anything, I think they want the board members to understand that their community is genuinely concerned about the hostility that exists on Parker Road every other Monday night. I think the FCC folks do not want their children neglected or caught in the cross-fire while some board members jockey for power and position. And I am certain that they understand that while loving your enemies is preferable to punching them out, love isn't always warm and fuzzy. When Christ scattered the money changers and then called the temple masters a brood of vipers, He did it out of love. I often wonder if Christ asked Himself repeatedly, "Why am I going to the cross for THEM?" But being the obedient child, He did go. I wouldn't have.
Louise, I don't want you to believe as I do nor behave as I do. If I were a board member, i would tell my preacher I was invited to worship at another church this Sunday because that church intends to lift up my service or maybe my disservice to kids. Whatever God might say through Mark Norris would only make me better aware of my responsibility to 14,000 kids, 1,100 teachers and administrators, and 1,400 support people. I would ask my minister to pray for me as I know others do. And I would go.
As you can see, I'm not a fundamentalist either - although I believe the fundamentals are important to my growth. We all judge others knowing full well that that same judgement awaits us. I have to live with that fact daily, and like you, I'm working on my faith as it is a constant WIP.
The behavior of this school board infuriates me much like the false piety exhibited by some board members infuriates you. After watching the tube, listening to the audio tapes, and attending more than a couple of meetings, I am convinced there will never be a workable peace. The division is just too great. Unfortunately, the potential fall-out will hurt our schools and our community for a long time to come unless there is intervention from someplace - be it Raleigh, the courts, or the pulpit.
How did the worship experience with the School Board and Superintendent go on Sunday at FCC? Who attended from the board? What was learned?
this site is being boycotted in respect of mr. hastings.
My family member died during this blog and nobody bocotted then.
Sorry, I'm not going along with your boycott. In fact, I have a question. Why would Buff stand up and speak about Joel at the Patton gathering. He and his mistress Tracy both called Adam Hastings a liar and tried to ruin his reputation and then Buff has the nerve to stand up and speak about Joel. Common sense would should tell Buff that Joel despised him and I would think the family would not want the Buffoons anywhere around.
How are you boycotting? By coming here and leaving a comment saying you are boycotting.
If leaving comments means you are boycotting, than i guess I am too.
WE should be removing this board. Tracy posted the boycott. Why would a Buffoon hater boycott a web site hating on the Buffons who trash talked hastings? this web site has nothing to do with hastings and everything to do with removing the current board.
ref: "Tracy posted the boycott."
THIS IS TRUE. MY FRIEND WORKS WITH TECHNICAL I.T. OPERATIONS SUPPORT @ GOOGLE & THIS INFORMATION WAS INDEED CONFIRMED.
BUT AS SEINFELD WOULD SAY, "NOT THAT THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT"
an I.T. huh ?
not really necessary.
no big deal to find out where these anonymous blogs come from. Sure, any piece of software *was* written by someone (or was created by a program that was written by someone), but when you get it it's either on a disk or on a chip or just floating through the Net and your computer "modulates" digital signals from the computer into analog sound waves for the telephone, and it demodulates the telephone's sounds into digital information again. By the way, ISIS was originally two computers working together and sometimes refer almost interchangeably to "ISIS" or "the email server" or of the operating system of a computer is "in ROM" to tell the CPU how to get the rest of the operating system.
Bottom line is, we know who you are.
Right....Call me then.
...unlisted.
If you can guess my identity I will buy you a steak dinner.
I am distressed to see that some schools in our system lowered flags to half staff in honor of Mr. Hastings. He did not serve in the military and there are rules to govern when the flag is lowered.
The flag of the United States may only properly be flown at half-staff pursuant to a provision of federal law, a presidential proclamation, or a gubernatorial proclamation in the state concerned. Under any other circumstance, the flag of the United States is supposed to be flown at full-staff. Some state governors have allowed flags to be flown at half staff following the death of a family member who serves in the armed forces. This applies only to flags flown on individual property. In Virginia, the entire neighborhood is allowed to fly their flag at half staff following the death of a soldier.
I am "distressed" that you want to limit our free speech. You are correct about the flag code. But that law has no punishment and is not enforced. Mainly because it is seen as a violation of the first amendment.
There are so many more things to be distressed about in our schools/county/state/country/world.
OK, my cat died, let's lower the flags. Let's also make a list of all laws not enforced so we can break them without worrying about punishment. I am all for free speech and I would suggest now that a precedent has been set, the schools can lower the flag for all requests from citizens that have lost loved ones. I beleive free speech applies to EVERYONE.
Unless you have been appointed as the official "distressed police", I will choose what I am distressed about.
Right your cat dying is the same as BCPS losing an administrator of 18 years.
You are welcome to lower the flag at your house for your cat. No one is going to stop you. That is my point, which you missed.
I don't think you get your own point. You are correct about lowering the flag at my house being my right to free speech. However, these flags were lowered at facilities funded by state and federal funds. Also, who makes the decision? Is it for administrators of 18 years or more. What about teachers, principals, maintenence workers, custodians, cafeteria workers, teacher assistants, office personnel, bus drivers, etc. Please enlighten us as to the criteria for the flag lowering list at state and federal institutions so we will all know who can be covered by free speech.
Fuckin grow up people
REF: "If you can guess my identity I will buy you a steak dinner"
DON'T HAVE TO GUESS, & YOU CAN KEEP YOUR 'STEAK' DINNER.
You dont know admit it if you guess right I will admit it is me.
really don't want to go there.
not in this forum anyway.
There is a school board meeting at 11:30 on tomorrow. Let's talk about things like....Why is it at 11:30, when most of the public is working? Is it a personnel meeting? Looks like it from the "tentative agenda" posted on th BCPS website. When are they talking about the "map"? When are they talking about THE BOOK banning? Are they talking about the personnel director position? Are they addressing the 7 official resignations from the Tech department? Why are so many leaving? My understanding is that the tech department is a vital part of the system and that it was a dedicated group working hard to serve BCPS.
The "tentative agenda" shows "none" for most of the standard agenda items until you get to "closed" personnel session. I get it....personnel issues should be behind closed doors but...but I really don't trust the integrity, honestly or intentions of these people...I've tried, I've listened, I've been patient. I just can't ignore the small voice in my head that says "be careful, something is wrong here, don't trust what they tell you". I wanted our board to provide leadership and vision for our schools. I only see and experience chaos, lies, rumors and vindictiveness. Explain to me why I should trust them? Explain to me what they see for the future of our schools, other than "I get what I want because I am in power" and "you will regret disagreeing with me because I WAS ELECTED". My hope is that eleceted officials see the incredible responsibility these positions invoke and not the vast priviledge some would assume.
REF: "chaos, lies, rumors and vindictiveness"
SOUNDS JUST LIKE THE PREVIOUS BOARD TO ME.
I'll tell you why all of the Technology folks in that department are leaving as I spoke to a few of them. They are leaving because they are under paid (other counties pay lots more and where big fish don't hide their salary like he does), they are not appreciated nor promoted fairly, and they know that their boss Dr S is REALLY a power tripping, 2-faced, predjudice, lying, sneaky person that plays ball by the famous "buddy system". Just look at those that left his department and look at who he is replacing them with. He has lost years of irreplaceable experience and wants gullible puppets to replace the lost talent. Looks like the smart ones have figured it out and made good moves. I feel sorry for those left under the leadership of Dr S. as they should be embarassed. I just wish those who are leaving would voice their thoughts. Please speak your mind.
OK, I'll voice my thoughts. I left the Tech department and I can tell you that Dr Smith is an outstanding leader and the best boss I ever had. You have made it clear that you have no idea what you are talking about. I left because with this BOE, I have no idea if I will have a job next week or not and that the board is out to get Dr Smith.
Ref: "SOUNDS JUST LIKE THE PREVIOUS BOARD TO ME"
I really don't care about the previous board. This is now. The school system is in trouble now. Where is the thoughtful, intelligent leadership we need now?
REF: "The school system is in trouble now"
AGREED. AND A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH THE PREVIOUS BOARD.
How much money is Burke County Public Schools paying PER MONTH for employees and staff to have free dial-up internet access if they choose? Do any other school systems in NC do this?
The free dial-up connection service was started to provide internet for employees "back then" when many had no connection and few other options were out there. It was a great recruiting tool and also allowed employees to work and stay connected at home. It served its purpose. It still works for people that just need to check email at home but with broadband connections and the need for faster and more robust connections to access current applications on the net it isn't so wonderful.
Dr. Smith has recommended (more than once) dropping the service as a money saving move but has been directed to keep it. I'm sure he would prefer to get rid of it.
I understand it to be around $3-4,000 per month for dial-up.
And all schools have a 'wish or need list' - AND YET MONEY IS GOING FOR DIAL-UP Internet access??
YEAH
MONEY FOR DIAL UP
GET OVER IT
GET A LIFE
I think there should be a discussion about best practices in education as it relates to how students learn and who should make decisions on what goes on in the classroom.
If you do not have a teaching degree, you have not had the many classes and fieldwork experiences which prepare you for teaching.
How can anyone who does not have a teaching degree, or even a college degree (Norman & Hairfield), make a LEARNED and CRITICAL evaluation of any kind of educational theory, practice, or program.
Foe instance, the love for inquiry based science. Well... we already do that! Does the bored understand or even know what goes on in the classroom?
I remember seeing each and every bored member in the schools and popping their heads into during the election, but now those very same people haven't even passed through the school doors.
BCPS Bored: Leave the classroom teachers alone, worry about the big issues, stop doing ignorant things like increasing class sizes, stop ejecting teaching positions and then padding the bored budget and adding useless line items. Please look at the budget found here: http://www.burke.k12.nc.us/Superintendent/boe/ExpenseReport/Current_Expense_08-09_3d_Draft_Approved_5-13-08.pdf
Lets look at the school bored budget:
They slash $1,020,507 from salaries and benefits, but look what they added...
Items 104 and 105: $18,000 increase in bored travel and membership fees/dues
Item 144: $19,167 for Public Relations - Miscellaneous (Banquets,
Celebrations, Awards Ceremonies, etc.).
$ 37,000 increase...that's one teacher assistant position with benefits...
There are many other items that were increased that are not instruction based, and many items that were cut that ARE instructional based.
Enough of my rant: back to answering the original question...lets discuss bored meddling in the classroom, bored meddling with the budget, bored meddling of instruction when they have no education degree or background (except for Mr. W.), and finally - why doesn't the bored members visit, stay, and maybe spend time in the classrooms?
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